Denon enters HD format war with Blu-ray player announcement

Tuesday 24th July 2007, 03:03:00 PM, written by Carl Bender

Denon Electronics made public today its first foray into the heated high-definition media battle with the announcement of the DVD-3800BDCI, a top-of-the-line Blu-ray disc player expected to launch sometime this fall. Set to retail for the normal-for-Denon price-point of $1,999, the 3800BDCI is the first Blu-ray player yet announced to formally support BD Profile 1.1, required of all Blu-ray players brought to market after October 31st.

Highlights of the player include support for internal decoding of both lossless DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD and the first-ever inclusion of the 10-bit Silicon Optix Realta chipset in a playback device. The DNR benefits of the Realta chipset allows for the significant reduction of video artifacting, with Denon promising class-leading image quality and upscaling of standard DVD as a result. The 3800BDCI will also feature an SD card slot for support of web-enabled content enhancement; although the player itself will not support ethernet, BD bonus content (games, subtitles, additional feeds) may be downloaded onto an SD card via PC and used in the player to enhance the playback experience.

Announced in conjunction with the DVD-3800BDCI today was the DVD-2500BTCI Blu-ray Transport. A Blu-ray player geared toward existing owners of high-end HDMI receivers, the audio feed is output natively in bitstream form to be decoded by the receiver. Such an option is well-suited to owners of DTS-MA capable receivers that have complained about the lack of bitstream output on presently available Blu-ray players.

A price for the 2500BTCI was not announced.
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Posted by tabs on Thursday, 26-Jul-07 15:28:05 UTC
Hmm, Denon made some great tape decks back in the early to mid 90's, don't really know much about them since then.

Posted by Maintank on Thursday, 26-Jul-07 15:30:02 UTC
Never heard of them. At 1999, most people wont be interested anyways.

Posted by Mintmaster on Friday, 27-Jul-07 04:05:27 UTC
Anyone interested in this player already has either a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player, so the news is rather irrelevant.

The next 6 months are big. In holiday 2008, BR and HD-DVD will likely have a small price differential, so HD-DVD has to take advantage now if it wants to make a statement (e.g. get a studio to go neutral). Even if that doesn't happen, though, I don't see HD-DVD dying before dual-format players have a minimal price premium.

Posted by pcchen on Friday, 27-Jul-07 10:59:20 UTC
Quoting Gubbi
In this segment they have excellent bang/$ (power, features, build quality) compared to most of the competition. Their main problem is their UIs are in many cases directly user-hostile (especially compared to other japanese products from Pioneer, Sony etc.).
I think they probably just hate the users. Or maybe they think only users smart enough should be able to use their equipments. I have a Denon AV receiver and after years of usage I still have to check the manual to know what it's doing.

Posted by Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. on Friday, 27-Jul-07 11:36:00 UTC
Quoting pcchen
I think they probably just hate the users. Or maybe they think only users smart enough should be able to use their equipments. I have a Denon AV receiver and after years of usage I still have to check the manual to know what it's doing.
I think they believe too much in their elitist reputation. There's been a lot of complaints on AV forums about things like lip-sysc delay problem, poor Mpeg 4 support, etc and Denon arn't really interested in dealing with customer complaints on these issues. AFAICT, mainstream suppliers like Pioneer provide better, more compatible products at the lower end, and if you are willing to pay a premium for Denon, you're better off looking at more capable equipment from the likes of Oppo.

Posted by Gubbi on Friday, 27-Jul-07 12:06:00 UTC
Quoting pcchen
I think they probably just hate the users. Or maybe they think only users smart enough should be able to use their equipments.
I just think their products are made by EEs, and they have zero emphasis on human engineering. I've got a 3806 (a 2006 product), which has OSD graphics comparable to the original PONG! video game.


Quoting pcchen
I have a Denon AV receiver and after years of usage I still have to check the manual to know what it's doing.
Same here.

Cheers

Posted by sir doris on Friday, 27-Jul-07 12:31:30 UTC
I think the important thing to take from this annoucement is that Denon now see it as worth while to produce Bluray solutions, and thus that Bluray may be the format with more future?

Previously the smaller niche manufactuers have waited before dipping into either HD pools.

Another note is that this should be the first player which supports DTS Master Audio, although suprisingly no ethernet.

Posted by pascal on Saturday, 28-Jul-07 04:21:20 UTC
In a related news Denon announced 13 new A/V receivers. All with HDMI 1.3a :smile:
http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/denon-displays-13-new-a-v-receivers.html

Posted by Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. on Saturday, 28-Jul-07 18:25:15 UTC
Just read that there have been comments from Denon in Germany that they are also preparing a HD-DVD unit, so this Blu-Ray announcement may not be as meaningful as it's being painted.

Posted by Dave Baumann on Wednesday, 29-Aug-07 03:13:52 UTC
http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/95040

This player has been delayed until some date in 2008.


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